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Over-development with Kodak HC-110


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I recently switched from Ilford ID-11 developer to Kodak HC-110, mostly because of the increased shelf life of HC-110 (syrup as old as from 1979 kept in half-full bottles have been known to work). It’s also a lot easier to work with since you normally use around 10-20ml of concentrate to make 300-600ml of working developer.

My only setback so far has been the first roll I developed with HC-110. As you can see from the picture, the negative turned out very overdeveloped, since I used times given for the older formula for Tri-X (TX) and not the newer 400TX that Kodak sells these days.
The interesting thing is that the variation in time isn’t that big, 8 minutes in dilution E seems to be about right for 400TX shot at EI 400, while 7 minutes and 30 seconds in dilution B rendered this. On the other hand, maybe I should have used some of my intelligence and figured out that if the The Massive Development Chart noted 7 minutes and 30 seconds in dilution B, and Kodak recommends 3 minutes and 45 seconds for 400TX in dilution B, something isn’t quite right.

Anyhow, there has been a lot of debate about this online, and people seem to agree that the optimal time for 400TX in HC-110 is somewhere between this two massively different times. Another theory is that Kodak messed up their testing and that the time posted by them is actually for 400TX in dilution A.

Update 15 Dec. 2011:

I’ve received a lot of emails about this post asking me if I’ve found a better time. And yes, I have, currently I’m using 8 minutes in HC-110 dil. E at 20 degrees C for Kodak 400TX at EI400, and that has given me nice negatives with normal density. The over-developed negatives had about twice the density of the ones I’m getting now. Hope this helps, and please comment if you have ideas/suggestions!

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  1. The developing time differences may occur also because Kodak sells different kind of syrup of HC-110 in Europe and in the US. The strength of the European and American syrups are different and therefore the dilutions and/or developing times are different. The Kodak may communicate mixed information… I’ve had good results with Massive Dev Chart’s data and a small amount of assuring research on Flickr/FilmDev. I have not developed Tri-X (at box speed) with HC-110 but I’ve pushed it to ISO 1600 in dilution B using dev time of 11 minutes in 20*C.

    January 12, 2011
  2. Stuggi #

    I’ve checked the syrup, and it’s not the half liter bottle that the “European concentrate” comes in, and the CAT-number doesn’t match it either. The dilutions on the bottle are also the same as the ones for the standard US-stuff. The time I developed is one minute longer than what’s recommended for 400TX in dilution E at EI400. 😀

    January 12, 2011
  3. Stuggi #

    Another note; the concentrate might differ, but the different dilutions are the same, it’s just the mixing ratios that varies.

    January 12, 2011
  4. I have the US syrup as well (the 1-liter bottle). And oh yeah, that.

    January 12, 2011
  5. Thanks for following this up. I’m a bit disappointed that nothing has transpired since I made my HC-110 resource page (www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110) quite a while back. My gut feeling is that 2 things happened: the HC-110 times recommended for original TX were too long (should have been 6 minutes in B instead of 7.5 minutes), and then when they calibrated for 400TX they mistakenly used dilution A instead of B for tests. Your result (8 minutes in E) is consistent with this. — Michael Covington

    December 26, 2011
  6. Stuggi #

    Michael, I’d say most people just read your resource before getting started and therefore don’t mess it up, which is why nobody except geniuses like me complain about these things. 🙂

    January 28, 2013

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